Palestinians and Jews

To better understand the ongoing conflict between Jews and Palestinians, a brief history lesson may be advisable.

The British Mandate of Palestine was in existence since the end of the First World War. Since 1516 the locals were under the rule of the Ottoman Empire and established their roots for centuries. The Jews came on account of Theodore Herzl, the father of Zionism and a proponent of a Jewish homeland from the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine#Ottoman_rule_.281516_-_1917_CE.29

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The Jews are segregating and oppressing the locals who have lived there for centuries. Palestinian citizens of Israel do not have equal rights and displaced refugees have no right to return. Israel claims to be a democracy, yet it is not a state where people can live as equal citizens regardless of their religious beliefs or ethnicity and Palestinian citizens do not have equal rights. An October 2007 law requires all school children to sign Israel’s “Declaration of Independence”: a declaration that explicitly upholds Israel’s character as a “Jewish state”. Imagine any other country that required every child to sign a document supporting the privileged rights of one ethnic or religious group? Palestinians attending Israeli schools are required to sign a document that negates their very existence! Where else in the world will you find such overt state racism? What kind of ‘democracy’ is this? The Jews are telling the world ‘this land is ours’ and the local inhabitants have no right to be there. They do not want to share the land, for they consider themselves the ‘chosen people’ in the old biblical sense. This kind of supreme arrogance will not sow the seeds of peace. Tolerance is the key.

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6 Responses to Palestinians and Jews

  1. ScruffyDan says:

    “They do not want to share the land, for they consider themselves the ‘chosen people’ in the old biblical sense.”

    That is only true of a small portion of the ultra-religious in Israel. The majority of Israelis do want peace.

    It is also worth noting that many Palestinian militant groups have as their stated goal “to drive Israel into the sea”.

    It is the extremists on both sides that are preventing peace, not the maojority

  2. verbena19 says:

    You are correct, and I agree with you. However, the sad part is that the state sanctions and even promulgates divisive, racist policies. Do you not think allowing encroaching settlements and the wall are divisive and racist? The ultra-religious seem to exert greater influence on Israeli policies. Sadly, the moderate peaceful voices on all sides are not being heard in government even though they are in the majority.

  3. Todd says:

    Scruffy Dan says:

    “It is also worth noting that many Palestinian militant groups have as their stated goal “to drive Israel into the sea”.”

    Do you think they (the PLO under Arafat gave up this position, IIRC) say this because:

    A) They are anti-Semites?

    B) They are POed at having their land taken from them and being forced to live in poverty on the (waning) charity of strangers?

    C) Both

  4. verbena19 says:

    I will say B).

    The ‘anti-Semite’ label has been so misused that it is rendered almost meaningless. Real ‘anti-Semitism’ does occur. But criticising or disagreeing with (or condemning, and not condoning) Israel’s policies vs Palestinians does not constitute ‘anti-Semitism’. A large number of Jews in Israel — as well as everywhere else — condemn Israel’s policies, so does that make those Jews ‘anti-Semites’?

    For the record, Jews and Palestinians are ‘Semites’, so calling either group ‘anti-Semite’ makes as much sense as someone calling me ‘anti-Caucasian’ because I disagree with some acts perpetrated by my ‘race’ or my country… (Am I ‘anti-Canadian’ because I disagree with some of PM Harper’s policies??)

    Disagreeing with the policies of Israel means exactly that, nothing more, nothing less. It has nothing to do with ‘anti-Semitism’. (btw, in case anyone wonders, I have many friends of all groups, including Jews. However, I do not segregate them or classify them as this or that, they are simply friends and members of my race: the ‘human race’. )

  5. Todd says:

    Ha! Your answer’s really C) from what you say in ‘graph two. !{)>

    Even were every last Palestinian anti-Semites, that wouldn’t excuse what was and has been done to them.

    “The ‘anti-Semite’ label has been so misused that it is rendered almost meaningless.”

    Mmm. _That_ I doubt (especially when real anti-Semites try to jump onto our band-wagon). However, the way in which it’s being deployed by Israel and its supporters eg Dershowitz to silence criticism of Israel is tarnishing it badly.

    “so does that make those Jews ‘anti-Semites’?”

    Heh! No, they’ve been blessed with the moniker of “self-hating Jews”.

    “(Am I ‘anti-Canadian’ because I disagree with some of PM Harper’s policies??)”

    To Harper and his ilk, yes. You’re in fine company with me (a commie, to boot!)

    “Disagreeing with the policies of Israel means exactly that, nothing more, nothing less.”

    Precisely.

  6. verbena19 says:

    You are right, I should have said: ‘The anti-Semite label has been so misused that it is badly tarnished.’ And yes, there are many true ‘anti-Semites’ throughout the world, especially as most people use the word, meaning: ‘anti-Jew’. This is wrong and has no place in society. How can we simply blanket hate — or be ‘anti’ — any group of people based on race, ethnicity, religion, gender, or simply because they are ‘different’? We are simply ‘human’. The sooner we evolve enough to realise that, the sooner we can live together in peace.

    Hatred is a cancer that eventually consumes the hater.

    thanks for your comment.

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